he used to. he doesn't now. it is a short exchange about the museum russ. here he is. see you monday 9:00 p.m. >> these rules are war on the little guy. eep and every one of these is incomprehensible to me. >> get government ads thousands of pages of new rules each year. >> tough performance. >> they say we need more. >> there are certain times we should infringe on your freedom. >> we have to depend on the federal government to protect our children. >> okay. but they keep passing more laws. now we are growning in red tape. >> i can't eat the way i want. can't sdring the water the way i want. can't poop the way i want.

>> like a disease. like a mold. >> get out of my life. this magician must have a license for his rabbit? >> they were arrested. >> how is any normal human posed to understand this and follow it? >> i don't have an answer. >> the constitution says i have a right to bear arms, but where i live you can't do this legally. >> can't we get rid of some of this? >> the good news is some entrepreneurs choose to move through this. they have better experience. even i can drive a cab. all of these people are combatant on the war against the little guy. >> certain amount of regulation is good. the problem is they don't stop. >> i would be out of business. >> with every phone call there

was more bureaucratic red tape. >> our government adds 23,000 law on stop of the 175,000 he they passed. the federal parts say local government adds much more. >> lawyer jeff rose helped little guys with this red tape. >> this isn't an agenda control. that is why where heing late tors do what they do. >> thoel for its own. n they are not mac velian power freaks. >> they like rules and live to enforce rules. >> i call them little em per others. they justify existence by

creating regulation. >> even marty the magician is there. >> i became a full-time magician because i thought how can i be regulated as a magician? >> can't get on any more. too bad. >> marty as entertained kids for 30 years. like many magicians he uses a rabbit. >> give him a big hand. wow. >> have a birthday child come up and make the rabbit magically appear. that knocks them out. >> but a few years ago i was signing autographs and taking pictures with children and their parents. a batch wdge was thrown in let e your license. a license for a rabbit? she said from now on you cannot use your rabbit until you fill out paperwork pay the $40 license fee. we will have to infect your home? >> your home? oo she is very ear just

about this. i was in chart of the men dal awareness of martha's house. >> they would love it if everybody says awe. >> my first inspector retired good news we increased our budget and we have more inspectors now. we will be able to visit you more often. >> you got a letter dear members of our regulate community. sounds like a family. >> it's a community i don't want to be a part of. they have a comprehensive written disaster plan detailing everything i would do if the event of a fire, therfrommed, i storm. animals escaped porn does. blizzards.

>> the plan came up at 330. they say it is but we have to do this? >> they don't laugh and say -- ef. you are not doing your job if you are a regulator unless you add more of this stuff. >> america was conceived as a sea of liberty with islands of government power. we are government power with ever shrinking islands of liberty. >> you want a washington, d.c. stoir $5. that's illegal. >> pegs in the city. get it. one problem? >> it is illegal. >> it is illegal if you tour. >> he had an idea tours by

segue. >> it will be off to our left here. guys must take a test and get a government license to get to it. >> get back to the kiosk here. >> you have been given a tour? >> uh-huh. >> but you don't have a license. are you a bad person? >> i am not. >> she tried to get a license but that's not easy. >> i had to get four personal references some people i have known for over a year. i had to get criminal background checks. two or three weeks later they said i could sign up for a test date i took it two and a half weeks ago jumped through more hoops. re cook the test and finally do pass. >> how about making people get a proper tour? >> i passed the bar exam.

i know how to give a tour. >> the tour rules aren't about safety on segues. they are about what guides are allowed to say. many new rules are limits on speed. john rose ensaid he had to get a license for his advice column. >> if he gets a ticket for giving advice ann landers would be fined million -- deer labar would owe millions. >> cease and desist you are engaged in unlawful practice of psychology. i represent a blagger who was diffing problems.

he had no access to veterinarian. he's always in a little trouble. >> we are going to need to check you for weapons. >> these men had the nerve to offer home improvement. >> are you kidding me? oo basecause these job seeks didn't put up thousands of dollars and take tests the government cracked down. >> bureaucrats for the state licensing board offered jobs to people who posted ads on craig's list saying i seek work. when the workers showed up this happened. california's proud of this. they posted this video on-line at a time when unemployment high our government attacks people who want to work. stops people from starting businesses. >> i got started. >> she was told you need a license to help people with

taxes. >> free int prize is at stake. >> he was told you must stop. >> these are just the rules since saturday. every die is a in tuer book. >> i am a constitutional lawyer and i have no idea what's in his books. each and every one of these is incomprehensible to me. >> totally incomprehensible and unnecessary. i am flipping over to this book this is department of energy regulations on the formula forp determining the energy efficiency of a commercial ice maker. somebody at a bar or restaurant can go to the manufacturer and say give me an ice maker if it works the market will figure out what it is the best ice maker.

>> there will be recue views on federal report. >> with choir for everybody to perform to this bizarre bureaucratic standard. every day it is more of this stuff? >> yes. it doesn't go away. like a mold it eats it through slowly. you don't exist any more. >> the mexican gray rowolf, the hump back whale. the see lion. am they need projection. >> i want those on males protected moest of us bdo but yu her kratz paining an idea and

run too far. >> the government wants to use ed's man in louisiana to protect one type of frog. >> we are haunted by casper the frog. >> it is the mississippi gopher frog. he calls him casper the coaghos because none live near the property. >> i found out by their own publication the frog has not been seen in louisiana because our land is not southable for it. >> there are 100 left in the frogs. previously thousands. this landowner has five gray ponds in his property. >> the government went after his land after bill snake's crew center for pibiological diversi

sued him for not doing enough it take the task. the you think wild america is full of it. >> i didn't though there was 9 million species. in do we need tro tro preserve. these are god's creatures. there is a limit or line to how far we are going to go. i don't know where the line is but i am going to try to save the species. >> it has unintended consequences. landowners know if government finds endangered species they will... >> stop it from being developed. that's what they really want.

>> shooted, shovel and shut up. >> they could see endangered species on their land shoot the think and bury it. >> there's a lot of endangered species. shouldn't they preserve these things? >> they should but the drog frog can't live on our land it needs three elements. >> says you? >> says the fish and wildlife service. to make a new home for the frogs the government says he will have to change his land. >> remove all of the trees, replant new trees dig ponds that have to be maintained and drained every six months put the frogs back on burn the forest every year. >> he wanted to build houses for the land. he got those rezoned for that. no problems we work with

landowners. instead they posted a video. >> kre tell you how they can cooperate. it is a keyed why yous burr kratic hoed map. unbelievably complex. you couldn't have a life and bell with this. mrs. houns of faces. if if i can understand at that you can unnd it. the lawyers love this 30-days peer, 40 days here. i would write it differently but the government permits itself to a process that is transparent and fast. >> telling someone they can't do something with their own property to protect an animal that doesn't even exist there is

everybody's definition of crazy. >> the environmental rules is supposed to insure the species. >> on top of that floor which is small there's a giant mountain of useless life crushing time wasting paper generating rel layingses. >> how much money do you so? >> 34 million that's inconsequential. if my land can be taken for no reason and no animal as all anybody's land anywhere any time time. don't even touch it. >> all around we shot, ovrl and set up about it. >> i have a right to carry one of these. but will my sky let me? safe driving bonus check.

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>> what if you want to carry one of these for self-protection. >> the majority concluded the right to own a gun months to each law-abiding american. >> what does that mean to me in my town? >> in new york city politicians

say -- >> the majority of the people want sensible gun row distributions. >> sensict sensible restrictions. what does that mean? >> formal copies not accepted. >> i tried to get a gun license. they make it very hard. first you must fill out a 17 page form. the form says i must promise i know the definition of other weapons like switch blade knife, gravity knife. metal knuckle knife. a kung fu star. i dooshlt a kung fu star. >> people sometimes threaten me because they don't like what i say on tv. >> i think they have so much security now. >> after this appearance some said i should be shot in the face. when i travel downtown i like to have the option of protecting myself. >> study saw american use guns every day to stop crimes. >> guns often stop crimes. >> the robber bouggot more than bargained for. >> today laws in every state

allow adults to carry a concealed gun. many feared it would lead to a surge in crime. >> violence appears to be dropping. >> you have chicago and washington, d.c. and new york city make it nearly impossible for people to legally carry a gun. >> this is 50 pages. who understands this? >> it took hours and hours to gill out the forms. we had to call the police department six times to clarify what questions meant. finally it was done. >> i have to get this notarized. sign here and i will fill in the rest. >> then you have to go in person to police headquarters. here they finger printed me asked me to list reasons why i should be allowed to have a gun then they charged me a $430 application fee. they said they would get back to

me. at least they were polite. >> robert martinez served in iraq and afghanistan. >> i have 10 years military experience. >> you would think he could keep a hand gun in his possession. >> why do you want a gun permit? >> to protect my family. >> he lives in a housing project. a couple months ago a man was beaten to death in front of my building. you hear shots go of and it is like boom, boom, boom. he thought he would get a gun license. that turned out to be an ordeal. >> i had to be there at 9:00 they open at 10 and they have you sitting there until 3 in the afternoon. >> john stossel coming here to get a license. >> for you it was nine in the morning until 2. >> yes. >> did you get the permit? >> no. >> their attitude is people don't need guns we are the police. >> the police can't get there. you have a better shot at hitting the lottery than getting a cop on your street exactly at

the same time you are getting into problems. >> the process itself is set up to be an ordeal. >> glen merryman runs this web site. >> if you are this expert i would think it would be easy for you to get people going. >> it is still an ordeal. it is used as a weapon to deter people to follow through the process which could take longer every year. >> for me it took 8 and a half months. first they told me i had to return to police headquarters for another police interview. this time they demanded i prove an akcation against me had be-- accusation against me was dropped this headline wasn't enough i was to produce the original court document. fo fortunately i could show them things like this. 52 days later they sent me a letter rejecting my application for a carry permit. they said i could get a license to keep a gun in my apartment. i feel safe in my apartment.

i want a permit to carry where i might feel threatened. i was told you failed to demonstrate a special need. the license advisor told me i applied the wrong way. >> friends of the ruling class what's who gets it. donald trump got one so did howard stern and robert dinero. >> maybe he has done work for someone who knows them. they will get you in front of a judge and within two to three-days you will have your permit. >> they can afford to pay for security. my family can't. there's no way in hell i am going to let this lie. >> when we return the red tape keeps coming. [ sneezes, coughs ]

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conway lives off the land in north carolina. people call him mountain man. >> with my own hands when i i built everything. when i moved here there when a clearing or a building. >> turtle island education center became popular. he taught a thousand people how to live like pioneers. last year the county hotold himo shut down. there's a county board that oversees the building department. >> people said his camp is unsafe. we don't know whether it is unsafe or not. >> the mountain man told the inspectors to go away so they came back with locks. >> they brought all of these different departments from the health department, tax people, fire marshal. all of a sudden the whole team like cars to a truck as far as you could see showed up blocked our driveways came in with armed guards and took over the home. >> doesn't it seem like over kill? >> not raleally. they had their pistols on the

side. he had an opportunity to cooperate. >> that raid led to the 78 page report of what the mountain man must change. >> more governmentment over kill. >> made this report in anticipation of litigation. >> they have a picture of our dog house in there. it's 4 feet long. they said this is for interm housing. i don't faux if they thought we had midget here or what. >> they say you have unsafe buildings resting toen a piece of rock. >> like a rock solid foundation. we have been working with the health department every year for over 20er yaos. they are telling me i can't live this way. i can't eat the way i want. can't drink water the way i want. can't poop the way i want. can't sleep in a building the way i want. >> we have a stack of permits where they permit every year. all of a sudden it is completely

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>> it has been great. the guys showed up exactly on time. they have been loading and working hard. >> rj learned pleasing customers sfrnt enough. he got a threatening letter from state legislators. >> -- regulators. >> we need a certificate of necessity saying there is room in the market for us to operate. >> certificate of necessity? >> a necessity within the moving market in kentucky for another mover. >> what? a business has to prove it is needed to get a license? >> you have to get permission from your own competition first. >> his law firm took his case for free. >> when starbucks began it would have had to have gotten permission from other coffee shops? >> if you proved they need aings in anal coffee shop you couldn't have done that. >> we did need a new chain because they were successful. >> competition sorts it out

better. >> the consumer is in the driver's seat. >> not when the competition has veto power. >> we are worried about consumer protections. healthy companies in kentucky. >> he is president of the kentucky mover's association. he has his own business. kentucky allows existing companies to protest new competition. over the pas five years they were prevented from the moving business because the transportation service is adequate. competition would diminish their revenue. >> all of these other moving companies say no we don't want to allow that. what gives them the right? >> we are not against new companies coming into kentucky. >> you don't want a moving company stealing your business. >> we dbt a scenario of a licensed company going bankrupt. >> companies go bankrupt all of the time. >> it is the end of the line of

circuit city. >> border's book store went belly up. >> it makes competition work. >> 20,000 people, would it be beneficial for the consumers to have 15 moving companies in it the area. >> maybe. >> you would have companies that are not in a position to provide a good service to the general public. >> the bureaucracies can't decide whether there's a public need for a new moving company. not even the moving companies know that. they have to try it to find out. these laws prohibit that from happening. >> wouldn't home depot like to say no, don't need another hardware store. wouldn't gm or honda like to say that? >> i am not the one who set the law. i am abiding by the law. >> also he says the older moving companies want to protect

consumers from shady operations. >> say i am coming to pick up your furniture. it's $80 an hour. when i get to your new house i say we are going to charge you 155 an hour. >> now we have this thing called the internet where people can find out if a company has bad reputations. >> consumers go for the cheapest price, john. >> lisa checked the web before she hired rj. >> if somebody had run a company poorly they didn't take care of their items they would give me alarm bells. >> did you have any complaints? >> we are the top ranked moving company in the state according to angie's list. >> starbucks create much of the job growth in america. >> entrepreneurs are the wealth breeders of our society engine of innovation progress and job creation and wealth creation. >> i assume i wanted to start a business a moving company would be a good way to enter simple truck and strength. the go compete.

>> it should be. buy a truck you paint the word mover on the side of it and you are in business. if customers like your services they will buy from you if they don't they won't. >> regulators aren't just mean. shouldn't there be some rules? >> orderly marketplaces is what we don't want. what we want is a free marketplace. if we have a marketplace who is doing the ordering? is it should be consumers who do the ordering. the law stops them from doing that. not to protect the public but to protect and establish businesses against having to compete fairly. that violates liberty. these laws are outrageous and they all ought to go. >> what's with the stupid mustache on my car? that's next. they lived. ♪

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what if i could make some money driving my own car? >> what if i could make some money driving my own car and help you, too. >> thousands of people already do that thanks to new cell phone technology that let's ordinary car owners offer rides to people. people who want a ride open an application. this one is called lift. others include side car. they press a button and that flags a nearby driver. in this case, me.

>> we got one. >> they make us put this ridiculous mustache on the car. it is a marketing gimmick but it also helps them pick being picked up spot the car. >> your destination is on the left. >> his name? >> tim. >> unlike normal cabs lift drivers invite customers to get in the front seat. >> welcome. >> thank you. >> is this your 1 lift drive? >> my first lift, yeah. >> where are you headed? >> he signed up for lift because it is cheaper than taxis. maybe 20 percent cheaper. >> i have had friends use it and they raved about it. >> he likes that the passengers sit in front. it makes for a friendlier ride. >> you see the pink mustache the passenger smiles the driver smiles. you get in the front seat a fist bump it is a new experience of connecting to other people in your community. you need someone with different political beliefs and music tastes. there have been companies that

formed with drivers and passengers. >> thank you, sir. >> have a good day. payments by credit card only. the price is up to the passenger. if he didn't like me he would tell his app to pay me less then he will have the tougher time getting the next lift ride. >> i like him so i give him five stars. that will make it easier for him to hire the next lift driver. >> on to the next one. >> have you used lift before? >> i have. >> why would she feel safe getting into a strange aer's car. >> everyone i have taken so far has been very nice. >> first of all not everyone can be a lift driver. my car had to pass inspection and i had to pass a background check. the real reassurance comes from the passengers and drivers rating each other. >> you can see pictures of them in their car rating. >> if you get bad ratings you can't drive any more. >> what if the passenger is

obnoxious. >> goes both ways ratings on the drivers and passengers. >> people get rides i make money. what a great deal. who would object to that? tax t taxi drivers, that's who. >> cabbies line up their cars and sit. >> new ideas like lift make established industry players angry. >> you are right we are. it's our familiar. >> we have to get big licenses get finger printed and insurance pink mustache has nothing. side car has nothing. >> not nothing there is the background check and the ratings. lift drivers don't have to obey all of the city's taxi rules. >> they don't fly with the law. >> bill uns truns the biggest c company in the city. >> we would like to compete with

companies that follow the rules. >> the lftikhars have to meet the safety standards. >> what safety standards? >> the license. >> they are private licensed they are hon honor system. >> if i am checking my app. this driver has been criticized his passengers if that's not the honor system that's the world policing him. >> that's all after the fact. >> in washington, d.c. bureaucrats got so upset with car sharing businesses they did a sting operation. today they tolerate services like lift they became too popular for regulators to strangle. there's no evidence that regulated cabs are safer. >> here in new york a licensed cab driver jumped a curb hit a woman admitted i shouldn't be driving. >> if that doesn't cry out for less safety regulations it cries

out for more vigorous safety regulations. >> it makes it hard for outsiders to compete. most of the transportation agency are designed to stop existing companies from existing. >> no taxi companies dare goes. bureaucrats demanded every car service must charge at least $45 a run. >> i have to charge him $45 for being 4 blocks. nobody is going to ride for 45. >> it was all protectionism to protect the taxi industry. >> when they started metro livery it was a great success. but the new $45 minimum ended it. >> we lost it and it went backs to taxi. >> the bureaucrats won. why would they want to protect existing business? >> existing businesses are

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who is they? >> i think this is their office. >> victoria doesn't know much about this apartment because it belongs to strangers. she and her mom just arrived. they are from florida but they wanted to visit new york city for a few days and they prefer to stay in a home. >> a lot better than being in the hotel by far. being in the city with a child the breakfast is amazing. >> he renovated his apartment and decided to try to makes some extra money renting his extra space to tourists. >> i love meeting new people and ha from all parts of the world. >> that's why he makes his breakfast a part of the deal. he advertises the space on air b and b, air bed and break fs and room awe ramah.com. trendy lofts steps from times square $149. in this neighborhood that's cheaper than a hotel. julie liked the pictures on the web site and comments from previous guests like the

apartment is cozy. felt like a home away from home. >> not only are we able to use the fridge we have a microwave, fresh hot coffee. >> julie likes staying in homes since this way her daughter gets to learn a little about how different people live. >> messy is comfortable. >> the room awe ramah web site is run by gee awe and tao they created it because they travel a lot. >> there must be thousands of apartments empty right now. >> how might they rent their home when they travel. >> why in the go to craig's list? >> we don't know who we are dealing with on craig's list. we had people who never showed up. people who didn't pay in advance because they didn't know who thewe were. >> how do i know i am not going to get a guest that will trash the place? >> the review the internet feedback. this crowd sourcing. julia and victoria knew he was a

good host. most guests don't have reviews so i will do a facebook search of them. >> this wonderful new business where strangers with complimentary needs find each other keeps growing. >> so of course. >> they have a terrible experience. >> this politician got a law passed that banned any one from renting their own apartment to any one for a time period less than a month. if you do you are an illegal hotel and you can be fined up to 25,000 dollars. the hotel industry sports the law to protect tourists they say. >> they walk into a situation that is not safe, not clean. >> really? when we asked for names of complain ants her office didn't provide it. >> there are people begging

legislators for the law to be overturned. >> the good news is despite the law sometimes enter ven newers and customers still win. room for rent reb site listings are up since new york law passed. people make the money and tourists save money and both have an experience they normally wouldn't have. >> it is amazing. quick, easy, fun. >> the cheaper taxi services survive. >> the business grows. >> businesses grow fast. we have had differemultiple peo lift has restored their confidence in society. >> he got the legislature to change the law to exempt primitive camps. >> sounds like the bill was written just for him?

>> it was written just for him. they fixed it so he was pretty much exempt. >> the mountain man teaches kids again. the segue tours continue and rj keeps moving people while he fights in court. >> look at that everybody. >> marty can keep his magic show alive. >> there's a happy ending here. >> after his story made headlines the government backed off. he must no longer have a disaster plan for his rabbit. >> with a little magic and a rabbit we have a stay in the rule. >> you had to have story you w front page. >> most victims suffer. these people fought back. >> the regulators believe they are making the world a better place but when you listen to the stories we are making the world a better place. >> some may never win but it is great they fight. >> good to be in a room with other people. good to be here.

>> they are the good news. >> but the bad news in state capitals every where they keep adding more red tape. they should not. but they want some. that's our show. thanks for watching. huckabee. >> tonight on huckabee. he will use his pen to sign excutive orders, the president changed his tune with the way s nsa collects issue. >> and mitch mcconnell reacts. millions of credit cards hacked. and who pays the bill? jerry wulis has the advice. plus, she had a choice, keep her unborn baby or her eye sight. her decision on huckabee tonight.